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When The Magnums Were Introduced
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easymoney
Posted 2/20/2025 05:37 (#11113746 - in reply to #11112988)
Subject: RE: When The Magnums Were Introduced


ecmn
Go back and look at Alice Chalmers and the things they were working on. If they wouldn't have gone bankrupt if they would have just stayed in the agriculture sector and a few other things like they were good at. I think a lot of us would be driving orange today

I thought the late '80s and early '90s into 2000s was a pretty exciting time. A lot of innovation was brought to the market. You could see the Ford Genesis coming out with that beautiful transmission and their new platform. They were stealing a lot of deere customers at the time. Before that if a guy told a John Deere salesman I'm going to go down the road and look at that Ford, and 90% chance he was coming back. When the Genesis were on the market and he said wow. This 4455 looks nice but I'm going to go down and look at that. Genesis, there was a good chance he wasn't coming back.

The Magnum had a solid power shift transmission, a good mechanical front axle, a wonderful chassis layout wonderful engines and a pretty okay cab.

You can see through that time. John Deere was losing its lead and loyalty was carrying it. But then they flat out copy and pasted a Magnum green with a couple tweaks and improvements. All we ever heard from John Deere was how helical gears are so much stronger and how great planetary packs are. And then literally duplicated the straight tooth gear power shift design that was in the Magnum. John Deere knew with the evolution of the Ford New Holland and the Magnum they had to come out with that thousand series lineup.

in 96 Fendt came out with the CVT transmission. By the early 2000s they were starting to get attention in North America. their cab and function was very similar to what they have today, just less stuff back then. John Deere was copying and competing against them for a long time and was way behind until like literally the last 5 years. They finally had a list of features and benefits as what was offered in 2004 from Fendt. Again, they just put their Twist on it to try and make it their own.

The competition is a wonderful thing that we all benefit from.

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